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	<title>Comments on: Doctor Jekyll Drives in LA</title>
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		<title>By: Jasmine</title>
		<link>http://digitaldame.wordpress.com/2008/08/18/doctor-jekyll-drives-in-la/#comment-274</link>
		<dc:creator>Jasmine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 04:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s totally rediculous that they ride their bikes like that on narrow roads.  There&#039;re plenty of roads with bike lanes they could ride on.  They do this crap all the time, and they cause accidents, because they&#039;re sitting there going 15 mph blocking the road, and cars pass them, often then hitting other cars.  If I were walking slowly down the middle of the road, no one would be shocked if I got hit.  I&#039;m rather peeved that everyone is canonizing these two bikers who&#039;re very likey just as much jerks as the driver of the vehicle was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s totally rediculous that they ride their bikes like that on narrow roads.  There&#8217;re plenty of roads with bike lanes they could ride on.  They do this crap all the time, and they cause accidents, because they&#8217;re sitting there going 15 mph blocking the road, and cars pass them, often then hitting other cars.  If I were walking slowly down the middle of the road, no one would be shocked if I got hit.  I&#8217;m rather peeved that everyone is canonizing these two bikers who&#8217;re very likey just as much jerks as the driver of the vehicle was.</p>
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		<title>By: Digital Dame</title>
		<link>http://digitaldame.wordpress.com/2008/08/18/doctor-jekyll-drives-in-la/#comment-121</link>
		<dc:creator>Digital Dame</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 20:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heya Ex,

I suppose I should have treated each aspect separately. One is cycling technique, the other is road rage. I find it interesting that it seems to be only here in the US that bicyclists are fair game in this new blood sport, whereas in other countries ( for instance see Nick&#039;s comment above), and others I have heard from (in Italy, Wales, Canada) cyclists don&#039;t seem to offend anyone. Maybe it&#039;s just a learning curve here in the US, as they get used to more bikes on the road. After reading another blog this morning with some really acidic comments directed towards cyclists, I am less and less inclined to find any fault with cyclists, regardless of how they ride.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heya Ex,</p>
<p>I suppose I should have treated each aspect separately. One is cycling technique, the other is road rage. I find it interesting that it seems to be only here in the US that bicyclists are fair game in this new blood sport, whereas in other countries ( for instance see Nick&#8217;s comment above), and others I have heard from (in Italy, Wales, Canada) cyclists don&#8217;t seem to offend anyone. Maybe it&#8217;s just a learning curve here in the US, as they get used to more bikes on the road. After reading another blog this morning with some really acidic comments directed towards cyclists, I am less and less inclined to find any fault with cyclists, regardless of how they ride.</p>
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		<title>By: The Exterminator</title>
		<link>http://digitaldame.wordpress.com/2008/08/18/doctor-jekyll-drives-in-la/#comment-120</link>
		<dc:creator>The Exterminator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 20:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doctors live by the dictum: 
&lt;i&gt;First do no harm ... unless you&#039;re in a &lt;/i&gt;really&lt;i&gt; big hurry&lt;/i&gt;. 

Clearly, bicyclers should not be riding two abreast. On the other hand, though, if there are two of them, &lt;i&gt;most&lt;/i&gt; motorists would notice, and not punish them by ramming them with a car.  

Where I live, which is one of the motorcycle hotspots of the world, bikers often ride two abreast. Sometimes three or four abreast, even. Man, the driver&#039;s great temptation is to just floor the gas. But most of us resist. 

So you&#039;re raising a good point, but, despite your disclaimer, it&#039;s &lt;i&gt;in the wrong context&lt;/i&gt;. We call that: blaming the victim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doctors live by the dictum:<br />
<i>First do no harm &#8230; unless you&#8217;re in a </i>really<i> big hurry</i>. </p>
<p>Clearly, bicyclers should not be riding two abreast. On the other hand, though, if there are two of them, <i>most</i> motorists would notice, and not punish them by ramming them with a car.  </p>
<p>Where I live, which is one of the motorcycle hotspots of the world, bikers often ride two abreast. Sometimes three or four abreast, even. Man, the driver&#8217;s great temptation is to just floor the gas. But most of us resist. </p>
<p>So you&#8217;re raising a good point, but, despite your disclaimer, it&#8217;s <i>in the wrong context</i>. We call that: blaming the victim.</p>
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		<title>By: Digital Dame</title>
		<link>http://digitaldame.wordpress.com/2008/08/18/doctor-jekyll-drives-in-la/#comment-119</link>
		<dc:creator>Digital Dame</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 15:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Nick,

Good to hear from you again, I lost your blog when you moved it! 

I think US drivers are just so accustomed to having the roads strictly for cars. Is the general pace of life slower over there? Everyone here is always in such a rush. Maybe in NL they realize being stuck behind a couple cyclists for a short few minutes isn&#039;t going to bring life as they know it to a screeching halt. And I still think part of this guy&#039;s issue was that he is a doctor. Doctors and lawyers are a special breed of control freak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Nick,</p>
<p>Good to hear from you again, I lost your blog when you moved it! </p>
<p>I think US drivers are just so accustomed to having the roads strictly for cars. Is the general pace of life slower over there? Everyone here is always in such a rush. Maybe in NL they realize being stuck behind a couple cyclists for a short few minutes isn&#8217;t going to bring life as they know it to a screeching halt. And I still think part of this guy&#8217;s issue was that he is a doctor. Doctors and lawyers are a special breed of control freak.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://digitaldame.wordpress.com/2008/08/18/doctor-jekyll-drives-in-la/#comment-118</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should see what happens over here in NL; if two people are riding togehter, they ride side by side - whether they&#039;re on a bike path or a road, and that happens however narrow the road. But nobody seems compelled to knock them over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should see what happens over here in NL; if two people are riding togehter, they ride side by side &#8211; whether they&#8217;re on a bike path or a road, and that happens however narrow the road. But nobody seems compelled to knock them over.</p>
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		<title>By: Digital Dame</title>
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		<dc:creator>Digital Dame</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 03:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Evo,

You&#039;re absolutely right, and that&#039;s why I am all in favor of some kind of public education campaign for cyclists. Sidenote: there was a great discussion on CommutebyBike.com about the issue of riding on sidewalks, and it is legal in many places. Personally, I don&#039;t think cyclists should ride on sidewalks, and I certainly don&#039;t like to for the very reason you mentioned. I did it once to get around a US Postal Service truck that was blocking the bike lane, and the traffic in the road was too heavy to go out around the truck. I rode the sidewalk just to get past the dang mail truck, and then back on the road in the bike lane for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Evo,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re absolutely right, and that&#8217;s why I am all in favor of some kind of public education campaign for cyclists. Sidenote: there was a great discussion on CommutebyBike.com about the issue of riding on sidewalks, and it is legal in many places. Personally, I don&#8217;t think cyclists should ride on sidewalks, and I certainly don&#8217;t like to for the very reason you mentioned. I did it once to get around a US Postal Service truck that was blocking the bike lane, and the traffic in the road was too heavy to go out around the truck. I rode the sidewalk just to get past the dang mail truck, and then back on the road in the bike lane for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Evo</title>
		<link>http://digitaldame.wordpress.com/2008/08/18/doctor-jekyll-drives-in-la/#comment-116</link>
		<dc:creator>Evo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Should bicyclists be riding two abreast like this, on a narrow road with no shoulders? &lt;/i&gt;

Probably not.  But what really pisses me off is that they ride on sidewalks (which is illegal) and then blame you when you almost hit them, coming out of a driveway!  You can&#039;t have it both ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Should bicyclists be riding two abreast like this, on a narrow road with no shoulders? </i></p>
<p>Probably not.  But what really pisses me off is that they ride on sidewalks (which is illegal) and then blame you when you almost hit them, coming out of a driveway!  You can&#8217;t have it both ways.</p>
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		<title>By: Digital Dame</title>
		<link>http://digitaldame.wordpress.com/2008/08/18/doctor-jekyll-drives-in-la/#comment-115</link>
		<dc:creator>Digital Dame</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was nearly (albeit not quite) speechless when I read what this sorry excuse for a human being did. And his lawyer&#039;s comment about &quot;regretting charges have been filed&quot;... Ya think??? I bet he&#039;s damn sorry about that little point. I don&#039;t know where I find this stuff, I seem to home in on anything to do with bikes these days. 

Loved the sign to &quot;Watch for Bikes&quot; blocking the bike lane. Priceless :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was nearly (albeit not quite) speechless when I read what this sorry excuse for a human being did. And his lawyer&#8217;s comment about &#8220;regretting charges have been filed&#8221;&#8230; Ya think??? I bet he&#8217;s damn sorry about that little point. I don&#8217;t know where I find this stuff, I seem to home in on anything to do with bikes these days. </p>
<p>Loved the sign to &#8220;Watch for Bikes&#8221; blocking the bike lane. Priceless <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: McBloggenstein</title>
		<link>http://digitaldame.wordpress.com/2008/08/18/doctor-jekyll-drives-in-la/#comment-114</link>
		<dc:creator>McBloggenstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You make a good point.  I don&#039;t think I would ride two abreast when there is no shoulder.  Perhaps early on a Sunday morning, when there are practically no cars.  But, if I heard one coming, I would get over quickly.

That being said, it is unbelievable what that guy did!  Just, wow!  Like you said, I get a little annoyed when a car is going way below the speed limit and blocking traffic, and I&#039;m sure this guy would too.  But, I doubt he would pull in front of a car and slam on his breaks!  So why on earth would he do this to cyclists that don&#039;t have a half ton of steel to protect them?  Crazy.

How do you find these articles?  I worry that after reading too much of these, I may not think clearly if I were to fall victim to a motorists road rage.  

To raise the mood, this is funny:
http://failblog.org/2008/08/19/bike-fail-2/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You make a good point.  I don&#8217;t think I would ride two abreast when there is no shoulder.  Perhaps early on a Sunday morning, when there are practically no cars.  But, if I heard one coming, I would get over quickly.</p>
<p>That being said, it is unbelievable what that guy did!  Just, wow!  Like you said, I get a little annoyed when a car is going way below the speed limit and blocking traffic, and I&#8217;m sure this guy would too.  But, I doubt he would pull in front of a car and slam on his breaks!  So why on earth would he do this to cyclists that don&#8217;t have a half ton of steel to protect them?  Crazy.</p>
<p>How do you find these articles?  I worry that after reading too much of these, I may not think clearly if I were to fall victim to a motorists road rage.  </p>
<p>To raise the mood, this is funny:<br />
<a href="http://failblog.org/2008/08/19/bike-fail-2/" rel="nofollow">http://failblog.org/2008/08/19/bike-fail-2/</a></p>
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		<link>http://digitaldame.wordpress.com/2008/08/18/doctor-jekyll-drives-in-la/#comment-107</link>
		<dc:creator>Health Bread &#187; Daw Suu receives visits from lawyer anddoctor</dc:creator>
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